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Rational Security

The "New Phone, Houthis?" Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.8 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

This week, Scott sat down with his Lawfare colleagues Benjamin Wittes and Roger Parloff to talk through the week of the most Rational Security-esque of national security news stories ever, including: 

  • “Oopsec.” In a strong contender for the most ridiculous national security story of the year, senior Trump administration officials appear to have planned a series of airstrikes in Yemen that took place earlier this month through the social messaging app Signal—and they appear to have included The Atlantic’s Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg by mistake, giving him access to detailed war plans and internal policy discussions that he has now (mostly) made public. How irresponsible were the Trump administration’s actions? And what will the consequences be of this mistake?
  • “Secrets, Lies, and Bureaucratic Red Tape.” The Trump administration employed the Alien Enemies Act to remove alleged members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua to a notorious prison in El Salvador last week, just before or perhaps just after (a point of ongoing inquiry) an order from a federal district court judge directed them not to. And now the Trump administration is invoking the state secrets privilege to avoid having to disclose more details regarding its policy choices. How firm is the legal ground that the Trump administration is operating on? And how will the courts handle it? 
  • “How Do You Think We Keep These Shoes So White?” Leading white shoe law firm Paul, Weiss kissed the feet—or perhaps licked the boots—of President Trump this week in an effort to escape the highly discriminatory sanctions Trump recently imposed on them for their past ties with a lawyer who worked with the prosecution in his New York criminal case. What could their acquiescence mean for big law? And the legal industry more generally?

In object lessons, Roger is unwinding from court documents in English by diving into Walter Isaacson’s “Elon Musk” in French—because nothing says relaxation like a billionaire’s biography en français. Scott revisited his college years, reminded of Bob Dylan’s live 1966 performance of “The Royal Albert Hall Concert” after watching A Complete Unknown (pro tip: never leave a pile of axes at a folk festival). And Ben pleads with “the algorithm” to stop assuming he needs weapons disguised as mobility devices.

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0:00.0

I literally would wake up one eye open and then need the cigarette.

0:05.0

I was so addicted.

0:06.0

Sue was diagnosed with throat cancer, aged 48.

0:10.0

To tell your family you've got cancer through with smoking was hot.

0:15.0

Up to two in three smokers die from smoking.

0:19.0

Smogin tried to take my life, but now I've got my life back.

0:22.6

You've got to keep trying to quit.

0:24.4

It's worth it.

0:25.5

For help to quit, download the free NHS Quit Smoking app today.

0:32.9

Ben, I understand from Slack, I've been out of town for most of the last week, but I saw on Slack there's a new member of your family household coming in.

0:41.0

The law fair season of Fakhundity has begun yet again in a way.

0:43.7

That's true, but it's not a grandchild.

0:46.3

Fair.

0:47.6

Yeah, we seem to have acquired a puppy the other day, and I haven't named it yet.

0:57.0

And so there's been a lot of lawfare slack activity associated with mostly jesting names for the puppy.

1:04.3

What is the predominant strategy? Because I know we've had a slack back and forth. I have a

1:08.6

particular naming strategy I've shared with people.

1:10.9

I know other people do too. What did you guys settle on? Right. So, well, so there's the Scott Anderson

1:16.1

naming strategy, which is that all dogs should be named either for something you can eat for breakfast

1:21.5

or after some other animal. And known I'm a vegetarian, so those are mutually exclusive categories. Not true for

1:28.5

everyone, but in my case, mutually exclusive. And then there's the Dan Biman strategy, which is to name

1:35.5

small, cute dogs after Greek heroes. And I'm closer to the Biman theory. I think I'm going to do some kind of a Greek name.

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