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The Bargain for Freedom (Part 2: The James Hemings Story)

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America's Test Kitchen

Society & Culture, Food, Arts

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In this three-part series, reporter Otis Gray explores the extraordinary life of James Hemings; the enslaved chef who forever changed American cuisine. Episode two meets Hemings back at Monticello where his cooking became the backdrop to some of the most pivotal moments of Jefferson's political career and our country's history; all the while training his brother Peter in exchange for his freedom. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.rula.com/proof⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/proof⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Thank you. Consider Plugra Premium European Style Butter. Last time on proof, just before the eruption of the French Revolution, Thomas Jefferson,

1:06.0

and his enslaved chef James Hemings were on a ship back to America.

1:11.6

For five years, Hemingsings had trained under the finest chefs in the world in Paris, was

1:17.6

paid for his labor, and cooked for the French elite amid the backdrop of a bubbling revolution against them.

1:23.6

He was such an anomaly.

1:26.6

The food that he prepared made Jefferson famous.

1:31.3

Paris had abolished slavery and Hemmings could have declared his own freedom on French soil,

1:37.3

but he didn't, leading us to believe that Jefferson may have floated Hemmings the possibility of his freedom should he return to America.

1:46.5

Jefferson was a silver tongue.

1:48.5

I think that he believed Jefferson's lies.

1:56.2

In 1789, Hemings returned to Virginia and to Jefferson's kitchen, still enslaved.

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