Welcome to the Dave Chang show, part of the Ringer podcast, and I work presented by Major

Domo Media, thanks to Yolotango as always.

I still after all these times saying that intro line have to really think about what the

fuck I'm saying, because it's never easy doing that.

You'd be surprised how many times I messed that up, but I am joined with my quarantine

partner, Chris Ying.

And how do we explain this podcast?

Well, we did a podcast a, what, like a week ago, two weeks ago with, with Mina Kimes.

Mina doesn't even know anything about this, by the way.

Mina, you know, I know Mina's on holiday or vacation.

And I want to leave her alone and I have no doubt that Mina would agree with everything

that we are talking about on this podcast.

But the day of the release of Best of the Best, which was a couple weeks ago, we got a scathing

email from producer Chinese American extraordinaire Teddy Z, who I've met on several occasions,

who sort of, this like, very important figure.

Every time I met him, they're like, that guy is important.

The one time I ever had lunch with Teddy Z, he showed up with Joan Chen.

And I was like, what the hell's going on here?

So he's legit for sure.

I mean, I was at a party once.

I don't know, this was years, like 10 years ago or so.

And it was very clear to me, he's the guy that everyone, it was like a bunch of Asian

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