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Criminology is a true crime podcast that may contain discussion about violent or disturbing

topics. Listener discretion is advised.

Hello everyone and welcome to episode 132 of the Criminology Podcast. I'm Mike Ferguson.

And this is Mike Morphard. Mr. Mike Morphard, what is going on with you?

I'm doing pretty good. Staying busy, but not bad all know.

Yeah, yeah, same here. You know, you and I have been talking about COVID, the pandemic. I mean,

everybody's been talking about it, right? I mean, what is a bigger subject in 2020? There isn't one.

But to be honest with you, Morph, up until this last week, I didn't know a single person who had

tested positive for COVID. I don't know about you. It just, it really hadn't touched me personally.

I'd seen all the stories on the news and on social media, but it hadn't touched me personally.

But that all changed, you know, within the last week when my co-host, my Gibson on my other shows,

he got pneumonia, went in, tested positive for COVID. So, you know, we're dealing with that. And

it's just so tough on everybody. Yeah, I saw that. I was surprised to see it and it's

kind of him, he hits home. You're right. We don't know too many people. I think in the true crime

community, anyways, that have had it. And to hear that is just really scary and I hope he

is doing better quickly. Yeah, me too. I mean, you know, I talk to him every day and I think it's

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