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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Allegations Against Rep. Eric Swalwell

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Explosive reporting in the San Francisco Chronicle made public sexual assault allegations against California Representative (and erstwhile candidate for governor) Eric Swalwell. Jane Manning explains why the Manhattan DA is investigating him, and how this case may shed light on what she says are New York's antiquated sexual assault laws.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Marrishow on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. So you've been hearing the news about Congressman

0:16.7

Eric Swalwell, giving up a seat and abandoning his campaign for governor of California.

0:22.1

That's the political headline.

0:23.9

Here's a legal issue that may become important if Swalwell is prosecuted.

0:29.3

The former staffer who accused him of rape says the assault took place in a New York hotel room

0:35.6

after the two of them had been drinking. Swalwell denies the charge.

0:40.3

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is looking into the case. If Bragg brings charges, he may run up against

0:46.8

a piece of New York law known as the voluntary intoxication exclusion. The voluntary intoxication exclusion. The exclusion makes it harder to find a defendant

0:58.6

guilty of a sex crime if the alleged victim voluntarily got drunk. Some states have this

1:05.0

exclusion. Some states don't. Members of the New York State Legislature have proposed closing the voluntary intoxication

1:12.7

exclusion for many years now, but the bill has never passed. Here's Assemblyman from the Bronx

1:18.2

Jeffrey Dinowitz last year, excuse me, last year on CNN, on New York One. In situations like

1:26.8

that where somebody is sexually assaulted, the cases are rarely prosecuted.

1:33.0

If you have a few drinks and you're drunk, that doesn't mean there's a sign on you that says,

1:37.6

you know, you could sexually assault me.

1:39.4

That's not right.

1:40.7

And we're trying to change that.

1:43.0

Assemblyman Jeffrey Dinovitz last year.

1:46.0

We'll talk now about the potential Eric Swalwell case and the voluntary intoxication

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exclusion, and more broadly about law and culture nearly a decade after the height of the

1:57.0

Me Too movement.

1:58.2

Joining us is Jane Manning, a former sex crimes prosecutor who now runs a nonprofit called

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