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USA Today, Washington Bureau Chief Susan Page is out with a new book on how Queen Elizabeth II interacted with

American presidents throughout the decades from Truman all the way to Trump. She joins us now to

talk about her new book, The Queen, and her presidents. We'll also ask for her analysis about

some of the latest news in the headlines, as we usually do, and Susan is good enough to come

on with us for that. Susan, welcome back to the show, and congratulations on the new book. Hey, Brian, it's great to be back with you. You know, I've written four books, and I've done your show for all four of them. Because they've all been so good about Barbara Bush, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Walters, and now Queen Elizabeth II. So you have a lane here, Susan,

don't you? Which is powerful women of the 20th and 21st centuries. Powerful women who have been

underestimated. Do you think Queen Elizabeth II was underestimated? Oh, absolutely.

For example? For example, you know, I think the

impression that a lot of people, a lot of Americans have of Queen Elizabeth, is of a kind of

stoic figure in a colorful hat, standing on a balcony and waving. But Queen Elizabeth was

quite a deft diplomat, and she was a smart politician, and she was a very

shrew judge of character, and she had a sense of humor, and she was a mimic. She had an impact

on the things that happened between the United States and Great Britain.

She had an impact, in some cases, on things that happened in the world, in ways that I think,

have been underestimated in part because it's all soft power exercise behind the scenes.

I mentioned Truman to Trump as the basic arc of your book, but you open

with a scene most Americans probably don't know about FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt hosting Elizabeth's

parents at Hyde Park in 1939, serving hot dogs and refried beans to a king and queen on the eve of World War II.

Describe that refried scene.

Yeah, amazing.

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