The AI Control Loop: When AI Goes Rogue - with Craig Thomas of Wallarm
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Noah Labhart - Startup Founder & CTO
5.0 • 217 Ratings
🗓️ 24 June 2026
⏱️ 23 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello listeners. Today we are dropping another episode in our series, the AI Control Loop, |
| 0:07.2 | how enterprises govern the AI they've already deployed, sponsored by our friends at Wallarm. |
| 0:13.4 | Wallarm is the AI control platform for Enterprise AI, protecting every AI workload, API, and application in production, giving CSOs the governance |
| 0:23.4 | they need and CIOs the speed they demand. |
| 0:27.4 | Organizations choose Wallarm for a complete inventory of APIs, AI agents, and AI apps using |
| 0:33.0 | patented AI ML-based threat detection and blocking that operates at production speeds. |
| 0:39.6 | In this episode, Craig Thomas, senior solutions engineer Wallarm, examines what rogue AI |
| 0:45.6 | actually means in practice, where the risk materializes, and what it takes to move from |
| 0:51.5 | detection to control. |
| 0:58.1 | Craig, thank you for being on the show today. |
| 0:59.3 | Thanks for being on Code Story. |
| 1:00.5 | Yeah, great to be here. |
| 1:01.2 | Appreciate it, Noah. |
| 1:02.1 | Absolutely. |
| 1:08.1 | Really excited to dive into our topic today around when AI goes row. |
| 1:09.9 | Excited to dive into that. |
| 1:13.5 | I'm excited to hear your perspective and bringing in all of your experience, including your experience with Wallarm. Before we jump into that topic, |
| 1:18.4 | tell me a little bit about yourself. Tell me in my audience a little bit about you. |
| 1:22.3 | So actually, my background, I spent over 10 years in Department of Energy in multiple roles |
| 1:27.0 | from a network engineer |
| 1:28.0 | all the way up to a CISO of the nuclear weapons plants. |
| 1:31.5 | So bringing the experience from the customer side in a highly regulated environment, |
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