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The Nocturnists

The Age of Supertechnology with Jamie Metzl

The Nocturnists

Emily Silverman

Medicine, Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.8614 Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Jamie Metzl, author of Superconvergence, explores the convergence of technologies shaping humanity's future. From the genetics revolution to artificial intelligence, he unpacks how these technologies intersect, the ethical dilemmas they pose, and their potential to reshape life, work, and health. With insight and optimism, Jamie challenges us to harness humanity's newfound powers wisely to create a better world for all.

Find show notes, transcript, and more at thenocturnists.org.

The Nocturnists is made possible by the California Medical Association and donations from listeners like you.

This episode of The Nocturnists is sponsored by the Bucksbaum-Siegler Institute for Clinical Excellence at The University of Chicago. The Institute is dedicated to fostering compassionate doctor-patient relationships and advancing clinical care. Each year, the Bucksbaum-Siegler Institute recognizes extraordinary healthcare professionals through The National Clinical Excellence Award. To learn more about the award and to nominate a deserving clinician, visit bucksbauminstitute.uchicago.edu.

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0:00.0

This episode of The Nocturness is sponsored by the Bucksbaum-Siegler Institute for Clinical Excellence at the University of Chicago.

0:07.6

The Institute is dedicated to fostering compassionate doctor-patient relationships and advancing clinical care.

0:14.1

Each year, the Bucksbaum-Siegler Institute recognizes extraordinary healthcare professionals through the National Clinical Excellence Award.

0:22.7

To learn more about the award and to nominate a deserving clinician,

0:26.8

visit buxbaum institute.u-chicago.edu.

0:31.0

Support for the nocturnist comes from the California Medical Association. You're listening to the nocturnous conversations.

0:45.3

I'm Emily Silverman.

0:48.3

Humans invent technology.

0:50.3

It's just what we do.

0:53.3

The agricultural and industrial revolutions were major tipping points in our history, transforming

0:58.7

how we live in work.

1:00.3

And while they led to incredible improvements in nutrition, living conditions, and quality

1:05.2

of life overall, they also led to something extraordinary, a population explosion.

1:12.2

Think about this.

1:14.3

In 1928, there were around 2 billion people on Earth.

1:19.0

By 2023, there were 8 billion.

1:22.3

If you look at a graph, it's basically a right angle.

1:25.9

And while that growth is a testament to human ingenuity,

1:28.9

it also brings forward existential challenges. How do we feed and care for everyone while

1:35.2

protecting the planet? How do we prevent climate devastation, pandemics, large-scale war?

1:42.5

Our guest today, Jamie Metzell, has been grappling with these questions for decades.

1:48.7

He's a historian and science policy expert who served in the Clinton administration,

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