The A.I. Jobpocalypse + Building at Anthropic with Mike Krieger + Hard Fork Crimes Division

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.5 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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“These products are really explicitly being designed to take away people’s jobs.”

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0:00.0	Casey, how was your Memorial Day weekend?
0:03.1	My Memorial Day weekend was, it was good.
0:06.1	I was like, you know, I need to unplug, as you know, I needed to unplug a bit.
0:09.3	I'm not a big unplugger.
0:10.6	I normally very comfortable feeling for it.
0:12.2	Yeah, you're a screen maxer.
0:13.2	I'm a screen maxer.
0:14.1	But this was a weekend where I was like, okay, I got to get out of this danged house.
0:17.2	I got to see some nature. And so went with my boyfriend up to Fort Funston, this beautiful
0:21.6	part of San Francisco. Great Beach. Just giant dunes that sit atop, this battery of guns that could
0:28.6	shoot rounds 13 miles in the ocean. And I was like, I'm so excited to like, you know, to just kind of
0:34.4	stare at the ocean. And so we, we sort of climb up into the dunes and
0:38.1	we sit down and the big waves are rolling in and the winds pick up. And I'm being sandblasted
0:44.2	in my face at like 40 miles an hour. And within 30 seconds, I have grit in my teeth. And I'm thinking,
0:50.3	this was not the nature I was promised. Why do I feel like I'm dying?
0:55.4	But it did do a great job of exfoliating your skin. My skin has never really looked smith.
0:59.5	They call that derm abrasion and some people pay lots of money for it. Yes, I have been
1:02.9	a braised. I've been majorly abraised.
1:13.8	I'm Kevin Roos, a tech column columns at the New York Times.
1:15.3	I'm Casey Noon from Platformer. And this is Hard For.
1:16.4	This week is AI already taking away jobs?
1:19.3	Kevin makes the case.
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