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Google DeepMind C.E.O. Demis Hassabis on Living in an A.I. Future

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.55.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

“The only thing we know for sure is there is going to be a lot of change over the next 10 years.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Now there's a very large what looks like a circus tent over there. What do you think's going on in there?

0:05.1

That is for an amphitheater. Oh, that's the amphitheater?

0:07.6

Yes, you're under that tent. Yes, you thought that was just some carnival that they were setting up for employees. Okay, my mistake.

0:13.1

I thought Ringling Brothers had entered into a partnership with the Google Corporation.

0:15.9

It's a revival tent. They're bringing Christianity back.

0:23.8

I'm Kevin Ros, a tech columnist at the New York Times.

0:26.4

I'm Casey Newton from Platformer.

0:27.9

And this is Hartfor.

0:28.9

This week, our field trip to Google will tell you all about everything the company announced

0:33.2

at its biggest show of the year.

0:35.3

Then Google DeepMinds CEO, Demis Hasabas, returns to the show to discuss the road to AGI, the future of the year. Then Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hasabas returns to the show

0:38.8

to discuss the road to AGI, the future of education,

0:42.4

and what life could look like in 2030.

0:44.9

Kevin being very old for starters.

0:46.8

Won't be that old.

0:52.3

Well, Casey, our decor is a little different this week.

0:57.7

It's, I'll say it.

0:58.4

It looks better.

0:59.6

Yes.

1:00.2

We are not in our normal studio in San Francisco.

1:02.7

We are down in Mountain View, California, where we are inside Google's headquarters.

1:07.3

I'm just thrilled to be sitting here surrounded by so much training data.

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