4.8 • 793 Ratings
🗓️ 28 May 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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In this episode, I sit down with Tero Isokauppila, the $100M CEO and founder of Four Sigmatic, as he reveals why he’s starting over from scratch to build a billion-dollar biotech startup. We dive into his new company, HIRO — a plastic-eating mushroom innovation that could reshape the future of waste. Tero shares how he balances running a nine-figure business while launching a zero-to-one venture, why he’s raising millions in funding, and what it really takes to go from $100M to billions. You’ll hear the unfiltered realities of scaling, raising capital, leading a mission-driven company, and how to play the long game in entrepreneurship. Whether you’re a founder, investor, or just fascinated by game-changing innovations, this conversation will show you what it looks like when a $100M CEO bets big on the next billion.
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0:00.0 | So how big does this vision get? |
0:03.0 | I mean, tens of billions of dollars in annualized revenue, but... |
0:06.0 | That sounds nice. |
0:07.0 | Taro Isacopola is the founder of Four-Sigmatic, which is a nine-figure brand that put mushrooms on the map. |
0:15.0 | When we, Four-Sigmatic created the original mushroom coffee 10 years ago, we were laughed at. |
0:19.0 | Today, it's a $2.6 billion industry. |
0:22.4 | In addition to being the CEO of a nine-figure brand, Taro is now building a startup. |
0:28.0 | Why are you starting over at zero? I don't know, because I'm stupid. |
0:33.0 | He and his team have developed a mushroom blend that eats plastic. In this episode, |
0:39.0 | Taro talks about his launch plan. He talks about funding the company. He talks about balancing |
0:44.5 | a nine-figure brand along with a startup while raising three kids. Do you think that you have |
0:51.4 | the chance to do something really special? Yeah, for sure. |
0:55.9 | It's working by our standards. |
1:02.4 | A mistake I've done over and over again that I would encourage you to avoid and be smarter than I am is like... Terro, Isocopola, you already have a $100 million business. |
1:07.1 | Why are you starting over at zero? |
1:09.9 | I don't know, because I'm stupid. |
1:14.2 | I guess at this point you're unhirable and institutionalized or something like that. |
1:21.4 | I can relate to that. |
1:22.6 | No. |
1:23.0 | But in more seriousness, it comes down to, you know, seeing a problem that was unsolved. And it's same with |
1:30.2 | books. Like you shouldn't, it doesn't make any sense to write a book. It's so much work, very little to |
1:35.4 | no money. And you should only write the book if you like can't sleep at night if you don't write |
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