Jesus Christ did not come and die first and foremost to change our opinion of marriage and sexuality.

He came first and foremost to change who we are in him, to change everything about who we are.

Welcome to Job with Julie.

Well, we live in a culture where so many of us define ourselves by our sexuality.

We have questions like, are you straight? Are you gay? What are your personal pronouns? And I think in church

cultures, sometimes we subtly ask questions like, are you sexually pure? But today we're going to head

into a territory where I hope to

challenge you to consider that the most important question about your sexuality is a question of,

are you a new creation in Christ Jesus? And joining me to talk about this is a new friend of Job

with Julie, Joe Caruso. Joe, thanks for joining me. Absolutely. It is so good to be here. I have been a fan and a learner and a user of the ministry

for quite a few years now, so I'm glad to be here. Yeah, well, glad to have you here. And you are

a pastor here in Akron, Ohio, at Grace Church. And I feel like we've known each other for several years.

Our ministry paths have crossed. I've been on your podcast a few times. So now we get to switch

the tables. That's right. As we were prepping, I think you said, oh, yeah, it's like Java with Joe.

And yeah, this one can be mixed messages with Julie Slattery. Because that's the name of your podcast, right? Yeah, it's actually mixed messages with Jeff Bogue, who's our senior pastor.

But yeah, we dive into lots of different things.

That's fun.

Yeah.

Well, I'm so thankful that you're here to join me for this conversation.

You're going to be here with me off and on for the next few months as we dive into

some content around my new book, Surrender Sexuality.

Yeah.

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