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Negotiate Anything

The #1 Career Trap Women Fall Into — And How to Avoid It - with Kweilin Ellingrud

Negotiate Anything

American Negotiation Institute

Education, Business, Self-improvement

4.7748 Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Buy Now The Broken Rung: When the Career Ladder Breaks for Women--and How They Can Succeed in Spite of It In this enlightening episode of "Negotiate Anything," host Kwame Christian is joined by Kweilin Ellingrud and Simon Perez to discuss strategies for career advancement, overcoming workplace biases, and the importance of financial and physical health. Kweilin, a senior partner at McKinsey & Co, shares insights from her book "The Broken Rung," focusing on how women can proactively navigate their careers and increase their lifetime earnings. The conversation delves into topics such as the concept of experience capital, the significance of making bold career moves, and the evolving role of negotiation and soft skills in today's workforce. This episode provides listeners with a holistic approach to success, combining career strategy with a focus on health and well-being. Topics Covered: The concept of experience capital and its impact on career growth and earnings. Strategies for overcoming workplace biases and advocating for oneself. The importance of choosing the right company and the role of negotiation and soft skills. Connect With Kweilin Ellingrud Follow Kweilin Ellingrud on LinkedIn Contact ANI Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn The Ultimate Negotiation Guide Click here to buy your copy of How To Have Difficult Conversations About Race! Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Kwame Christian and you are about to step into the world of Negotiate Anything,

0:06.2

the number one negotiation podcast in the world where we teach you how to make difficult conversations easier while getting more of what you want in the process.

0:14.7

Each episode is packed with practical tips and strategies from the experts.

0:19.5

We delve into negotiation, conflict resolution,

0:22.7

and leadership skills that are crucial in both business and in life. Whether you're closing a deal,

0:28.3

managing a team, or navigating personal relationships, negotiate anything provides you with the tools

0:33.9

you need to succeed. Our conversations are real, relatable, and most importantly, rooted

0:39.8

in practicality. So if you're ready to transform your conversations and elevate your negotiation skills,

0:46.2

join me on Negotiate Anything. Subscribe and listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you love to

0:52.7

listen. Let's make every conversation a winning negotiation.

0:58.6

Quaylin, thanks for joining us today.

1:00.8

My pleasure.

1:01.6

Yes, and it is a pleasure to have you, my friend. So how would we get this started by

1:05.5

telling us a little bit about it yourself and what you do?

1:08.5

Absolutely. I'm Quailen, Ellen Grude. I'm a senior partner at

1:11.8

McKinsey and co-author of The Broken Rung, a book to help women navigate their careers more effectively.

1:19.0

And actually, we just released about two weeks ago and found out that we made number four on the

1:24.3

USA Today bestseller list. So very excited.

1:33.4

Congratulations. That's a massive accomplishment. And so for the listeners today, I want you to really set the stage. So if the people, for the person who's listening today, if they were

1:39.2

to take what we're talking about and put it into action, what really changes in their life?

1:43.9

They will more proactively make career choices that help them in the near term, in the

1:51.0

medium term, and in the long term. A few examples. They will pick companies that help them

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