This is the Friends of History Debating Society.

I'm John Bachelors with my colleague, Michael Jan.

He is in Texas in El Paso, reflecting upon what he's seen

these last days after the prior to the expiration of Title 42

and now afterwards.

Michael, you're near El Paso.

There's a camp there that the Border Patrol is guiding people,

they're busing people too.

And the 12th, the question was, did the surge wane

on the 11th and 12th?

Are there fewer people coming through now?

Now, you've described the camp at El Paso as full

or heavily populated.

So are people still coming through?

Or is there a trickle now only?

Oh, it's not a trickle.

I mean, there's still coming through.

It's just not like a title wave that a lot of people

expect it.

For instance, I haven't gotten the numbers this morning,

but last night we had about 23,000 in custody.

And most of those will be released.

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