Hello everyone and welcome to the Girls Camp podcast Patreon. It is me, Haley Rawl, your host. We have

much to discuss today. And the things that we are going to be discussing are just a number of things

that I have been thinking about, having feelings about that feel too sensitive or tender to share on the girls' camp

main feed. Which is why I love this Patreon, as you know, because I feel like we can just get

into things in a different way, in a safer way than on the main feed. Some of the topics we're going to be discussing are the behind the scenes, I guess you could

say, of the interview I just recently did with Chase McWhorter, kind of how that interview

came to be, what my intentions were, what my hesitations were.

I just have some thoughts about that. I'm going to be

talking about mom guilt, especially around Christmas time. I'm going to be sharing a story,

an interaction I had with some moms that I'm associated with through my kids' activities and some things that brought up for me

that I then had to talk about in therapy, going to be talking about grief. And if there is a right

or wrong way to grieve and having guilt around grieving and the way that I've grieved,

what else? Oh, friendship breakup stuff. There's been a bit of a,

just a tiny little flare up around my friendship breakup stuff that I've talked about on here.

So we're going to be talking about all of that and more. All right. Let's get into the juicy stuff. Dun, done, done. First things first, I want to share a little bit more about the Chase interview.