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G-I-R-L-S-C, A-N-P, it's GirlsC C. A. M.P. It's Girls Camp.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Girls Camp podcast.

I'm your host, Haley Rawl, and I am joined today by Chase McWhorter.

I'm stoked to be here. I've been a fan for a long time.

I'm so happy you're here.

You may know Chase from appearances on The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, from involvement in the initial swinging

scandal, which kind of is what, you know, now we're here today, which is kind of crazy to think about,

I'm sure for you especially. Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah, that this is what would become this. Yeah. We are going to be talking a little bit about that stuff, but more so getting into your faith journey, which I'm so excited about. I listened to you on the weekly trash with our mutual friend, Josie Van Dyke. I will link that in the show notes. It was a great conversation.

And there were multiple times there was like, ooh, I feel like there's like some

underlying Mormonism stuff, religious stuff here. I had a lot of follow-up questions.

Yeah. So I DMD you and now here we are. I was excited when you did because when I was going

through my whole faith deconstruction,

like you were one of the probably two podcasts or three podcasts that I listen to very frequently.

I really appreciate that.

It's a full circle moment for me.

And I've, like I said, I think you do a great job of this.

So I just appreciate that.

I really appreciate that.

I started about three years ago.

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