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One thing that is, this almost, I think, will be for us, certainly as a panel, but also probably

for some of our listeners, almost the most comedic one of the bunch, I think. And this has to do with,

you know, so who exactly is giving Congress that idea

that there's not much more that needs to be done, I wonder. And to answer that, I think,

in this very interesting exchange, for our purposes at least, Wachter asks Jha what the deal is

with the CDC's community level system and why it's stirred up so much consternation from people like us.

I wonder about the communications challenges for you and the CDC that, you know, you look on the CDC map and everything looks pretty green because the metrics are hospitals filled.

And my sense is that's, you know, a reasonable thing as you're thinking about mandates or

broader public health strategies, but pretty unhelpful if you're thinking about should I wear a

mask when I go to the supermarket. How do you think about that?

Yeah. The other, I mean, there are two things that are going on with the CDC maps that are a bit of a

challenge. I mean, there is the broader issue of it's a combination of cases, hospitalizations, and capacity. And so you can have high cases, but if you're doing a great job with you have a highly boosted population and you don't have, and if you're getting a lot of packs a bit out, you may not see a lot of hospitalizations or not filling up

your clue. That's too much. And so then it won't turn orange. The other part is, and I try to remind

people of this, if you just look at the map, you know, two-thirds of the country still looks green,

half to 60% of the country lives in the yellow and orange. I mean, part of it is like the population

density and the land density, as you know, are not equally distributed in America. And so a lot

of it looks green when actually populations live in a lot of yellow and orange areas. And so that,

I think, has created a communications challenge where people think the CDC is saying everybody's green.

But in fact, if you look in your county, you're going to see a lot of places with a lot of population that's orange.

And in places that are orange, people should be wearing a mask.

I mean, that's what I would recommend, right?

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