David Leonhardt and the Tolerable Plague w/ Abby Cartus (06/16/22)

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4.8 • 588 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Abby Cartus joins us to discuss David Leonhardt's "Covid and Race," in which he made the bold (and inaccurate) claim in the New York Times that "covid’s racial gaps have narrowed and, more recently, even flipped." But first, we discuss a report that the Biden administration privately discussed what an acceptable number of ongoing daily covid deaths would be. As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod Pre-orders are now live for Bea and Artie's book! Pre-order HEALTH COMMUNISM here: bit.ly/3Af2YaJ Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch join our Discord here: discord.com/invite/3KjKbB2

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1:27.9	So today we are joined by returning audience favorite friend of the panel and long-time
1:33.3	death panel epidemiology correspondent Abby Cardis.
1:36.7	Abby is a perinatal epidemiologist and a postdoctoral research associate at Brown University School
1:42.3	of Public Health working with the People Place and Health Collective. Abby, welcome back to the show. It's been a little while, so I'm excited to be back. Thanks for having me. It's always nice to have you on. I mean, time works funny in the pandemic. I realized the other day when I was looking through my notes for when we first covered the Great Barrington Declaration. And I was like, wow, it's cool that
2:01.0	basically two years to the day from when we first had Abby on the show is when our book comes out
2:07.3	because we had you on October 19th, 2020, and our book comes out October 18th. But it's kind of wild
2:14.2	to think it's been two years since we first made fun of COVID minimizers together.
2:18.2	There have been times when it feels like it's been 12 years and times when it feels like it's been six months and sometimes on the same day.
2:25.1	But anyways, I'm so glad to have you back.
2:27.3	You've always been the caretaker here.
2:31.2	I'm so glad to have you back on the show, as always, Abby.
2:34.0	And especially today.
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