From WNYC Studios, it's Brian Lair, a daily politics podcast. It's Monday, June 13th.

We'll continue to piece together what we've learned from the January 6th Committee,

both on Thursday night and then this

morning and early afternoon. Back with us now first to help us through these clips and this

conversation with her expertise is Quinta Jurecic, senior editor at Lawfare, the website that

describes itself as being about hard national security choices.

She was previously the managing editor there and is co-host of a law fair podcast series,

Arbiter of Truth on misinformation and disinformation, social media platforms,

and the online information ecosystem. And all of that, of course, is so relevant

to that period between the election itself and January 6th as well as ongoing. She's a contributing

writer at the Atlantic as well and a fellow in governance at the Brookings Institution. Hi, Quinta,

thanks for coming on again. Thanks for having me.

Well, let me start here. The star witnesses today, as they were just talking about on the network,

were really on videotape rather than in person. And very specifically, Trump's former Attorney General

William Barr, who has so much

credibility on the right and so much history on the right, was arguably the star witness today,

along with his deputy attorney general, less well known as a public figure, but very interesting

today. And in that chain of command, also Trump appointee, from that post-election period,

Richard Donahue.

And I want to play one fairly long clip of each of them as we go.

We chose these clips because first bar and then Donahue go point by point to debunk the claims of election fraud that Trump

continued to make, even after he was told they were false. So let's begin with Attorney General

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