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Here we are. It's Thursday at 7th of August. And very good morning to you, Chloe.

A lot of stories around this morning. Where would you like to begin?

I mean, I don't know. I suppose HMRC in the British guilt classes probably strikes me as the most of the music story this morning.

HM Revenue Customs able to log on to an online session during office hours yesterday. Propsing a furious backlash, Tory leader Kemi Bayne, not describing it as nonsense. This goes on all the time in Whitehall, doesn't it? You've basically got loads and loads of woke people with nothing better to do than go, I know, let's have a seminar on how awful it is to be British and, you know, whether you're white or whether you're black or whether you're guilty

or, you know, it's, what's what are they doing? I mean, complete waste of time. I mean, no good

private company would use their resources, having staff during their working hours, going to some

seminar on the guilt of being British.

I mean, it's just crazy.

And then we also, so you've got HMRC where you can't get them to answer the phone.

No.

They really should be prioritising that rather than this, right?

And then you've got the NHS where apparently we lost 26,000 NHS working hours to people attending woke events, which also

cost a lot of money to run. And it's all this same sort of stuff like guilt of being British,

white privilege, DEI, transphobia, this and that, right? I mean, it's just a complete and

utter waste. And when the taxpayers paying for it, I mean, as I said, a good private company would never do this. But if a private company does decide to do this stuff, I think fine, they want to waste their money, that's okay. But when it's taxpayers' money, and you can't get an adequate service from them, they won't answer the phone and you can't get an NHS appointment. It's just taking us to the phone.

This thing that they had yesterday was the guilt of being British listening circle from 11am until noon, run by the HMRC Race Network.

I didn't know there was one of those.

It was billed as a powerful, interactive and reflective listening circle

exploring the emotional complexity of being South Asian and British,

covering topics including the emotional weight of colonial history and inherited trauma.

Have you only inherited trauma?

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