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🗓️ 10 October 2025
⏱️ 73 minutes
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JJ Kinahan, CEO of TastyTrade shares some tasty option strategies for 2025. JJ shares his journey from floor trader at the CBOE to CEO of TastyTrade under IG North America. He discusses the evolution of the brokerage industry—from the days of shouting in trading pits to today’s retail-driven, commission-free environment—and how access to education has empowered individual investors. JJ emphasizes the importance of starting small, defining risk, and learning gradually when trading. We also talk why certain option types are miscategorized as “risky,” the influence of retail investors since the meme stock era, and how futures trading offers hedging and round-the-clock opportunities.Â
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast. Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life. |
| 0:11.0 | Hello, Smart Money Tree podcast listeners. Welcome to this week show. My name's Kirk Chisholm. I'll be your host. |
| 0:15.6 | And today I'm joined with JJ Kinhan. How you doing to JJ? I'm great. Kirk, how are you doing, |
| 0:20.4 | it's exciting to have you on. |
| 0:22.5 | A lot to talk about today. So for those of you don't know you, tell us a bit about your background. |
| 0:27.9 | Certainly. So I started as a trader in the pitch, jumping up and down and yelling and screaming in a |
| 0:32.9 | funny colored coat 40 years ago now, 1985 at the CE, did that for 21 years, then went to a firm |
| 0:39.8 | called Thinkerswim. You know, back in 2006, ran all the education. We were bought by |
| 0:45.7 | TD Ameritrade. At TD Ameritrade, I held every position you could pretty much hold in the trading |
| 0:51.5 | world in terms of running platforms, running an advisory |
| 0:54.7 | service, you know, running the education. We started the network. And then in 2022, Schwab had purchased |
| 1:03.7 | TD Ameritrade. And in 2022, I went over to Tasty Trade as the CEO for IG North America was the parent company out of the UK, |
| 1:12.6 | and I ran North America for them, which included Tasty Trade, Tasty Lives, Tasty Crypto. |
| 1:17.6 | I remember when I found out about Thinkerswim, it was right before Td acquired them, and I was |
| 1:23.2 | doing a little research, and I heard about this company company and everything they're doing was great, |
| 1:27.9 | great education, just well run, just they really understood option traders. So I opened up |
| 1:33.2 | account there, started using it. Three months later, they got acquired by TD, which is both good |
| 1:38.1 | and bad because TD actually was smart. They integrated the technology. They knew what they had. |
| 1:42.9 | I actually talked to some of the people over there. There was a small thing they were doing at Toss, which I thought was really, really cool, which is if there's five cents left in an option, you could close it out with no commission. I was like, that's great. It's the right thing to do. A lot of people want to, but they don't want to pay the money because the commission. I thought it was great. I actually begged TD to keep it, and then they did, which is kind of cool. |
| 2:04.2 | I'll take credit, even though it probably wasn't me. |
| 2:06.1 | It's something we learned as floor traders. |
| 2:07.7 | I know you talk about it in your podcast every week in different ways, and that's about risk. |
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