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Money Tree Investing

Invest In Anything But The S&P 500…

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Right now, you should invest in anything but the S&P 500... Today we talk about what you should invest in instead. We focus was on market dynamics, particularly the strong performance of precious metals like gold and silver, the technical risks of recent market breakouts, and the caution needed after periods of rapid gains. We examine broader market trends, highlighting the relatively stronger performance of European and emerging market stocks versus the U.S., the importance of diversification, and more.

We discuss...

  • Precious metals, especially gold and silver, have been performing strongly, but recent market breakouts are showing signs of weakness, signaling caution for over-leveraged investors.
  • September was a high-gain month, leading many investors to become overextended, with earnings season potentially introducing volatility.
  • The precise reasons for gold's rise are unclear, though factors like central bank purchases and possible stablecoin-backed demand may contribute.
  • Gold acts as a fear indicator rather than a production-based asset, with rising prices reflecting concerns over fiat currency and economic uncertainty.
  • Historical comparisons show current gold-to-oil ratios are anomalous, echoing aspects of the 1970s stagflation period while oil prices remain low.
  • U.S. stock market gains are outpaced by European and emerging markets this year, emphasizing the importance of global diversification.
  • Average S&P 500 returns differ from actual realized returns due to volatility and sequence-of-returns risk, affecting long-term retirement planning.
  • Electricity prices have surged in most U.S. states, highlighting structural energy supply challenges and rising costs for consumers.
  • AI expansion is creating unprecedented energy demand, potentially driving electricity prices higher and stressing grid capacity.
  • Nuclear energy development is critical to meet growing energy needs, yet decades of poor policy and infrastructure deficiencies hinder progress.
  • Media narratives on energy and investment trends can be manipulated, requiring investors to critically evaluate information.
  • Historical tech and AI boom comparisons suggest caution, as overhyped markets with high valuations may lead to significant losses.
  • Investors should manage risk carefully, use first-principles thinking, and avoid greed-driven overexposure to emerging trends like AI.

 

Today's Panelists:

Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth
Douglas Heagren | Mergent College Advisors

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.8

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:11.0

Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcast listeners.

0:12.7

Welcome to this week's show.

0:13.6

My name is Kirk Chisholm.

0:14.5

I'll be your host, and today I'm joined with Doug Hagrin.

0:16.8

Hey, Doug.

0:17.7

Hey, Kirk, happy Friday to you again.

0:20.1

We're on schedule for once.

0:21.7

It's just good to be in a routine.

0:24.1

Happy Friday.

0:25.0

It's a good week.

0:25.7

Feels like fall.

0:26.8

We had some 80 degree weather, which felt like summer,

0:29.1

and all of a sudden last night,

0:30.1

went down to 32 degrees.

0:31.8

I turned on my chili pad bed, and it was too hot.

0:35.6

I'm going to be camping in 38 degrees tonight. Let's go. Right on the North Shore, rock and roll. Prompted me to go out and get some down booties. You know, the last time I did this, my feet got a little nippy. It ain't about style. It's about function. I'm trying to make a style out of it, but give me function over style any day. I'm 50 years old now.

0:55.5

I don't care. Aren't booties for like babies? Like you go small feet or what's going on? They're big booties, but let me tell you, I felt like a little bit of a baby at 3 a.m. when we were camping in the middle of a fog and it was 40 degrees. So yes, I was a big baby. So those booties are my way. Small feet, smell like cabbage. Yeah, exactly. It's down, so it's non-washable. So, you know, after a couple of campouts, this thing's going to be ripe. Oh, it's going to be beautiful. Nice. Well, it's an interesting week. So I'm glad it's the TGIF. glad it's Friday here. A lot going on.

1:30.1

I want to share a bunch of stuff with everybody here.

1:35.2

You know, we've been talking about a lot of different areas in the market for the last few weeks, for the last few months, actually, on how precious metals have been doing really

1:40.7

well.

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