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The John Batchelor Show

TARIFFS: PRC IMBALANCE, ALAN TONELSON, GORDON CHANG

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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TARIFFS:  PRC IMBALANCE, ALAN TONELSON, GORDON CHANG
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.8

Gordon Chang, I'm Gordon-Gee Chang, my colleague and co-host,

0:15.4

and we go to our guide on manufacturing and trade these last years,

0:19.6

more than a decade now. But here we are in the

0:23.6

arena. Alan Tonelson, who blogs at Reality Check. Alan, I read the CNBC headline. It is most

0:32.3

promising and confusing at the same time. Besant, that's the Secretary of the Treasury,

0:39.1

understood generally as the adult in the room. Besson says he expects, quote, de-escalation, end quote, in U.S. China

0:47.2

terror flight in the, again, quote, very near future. Alan, what the heck does that mean? Good day to you. Hi, John, and hi, Gordon,

0:57.1

and I got to tell you, especially because there's no complete transcript, at least not one that I've

1:03.4

seen, it's really difficult to know what to make of this and related news reports. It could very

1:10.0

well mean that Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, feels that the Trump

1:16.4

administration is close to some kind of a deal with the Chinese that would lower tariffs.

1:23.6

It also might mean that he's signaling to what seemed to have been a pretty heavily

1:30.2

Wall Street audience that the Trump administration might be ready in some respect to back down.

1:39.3

That would, I think, be very bad news for the American economy.

1:43.2

But even the possibility of a U.S.-China trade deal might be caused for concern if it's not the right kind of deal.

1:56.3

There's been so much focus on lowering tariffs and on getting zero-for-zero-zero-tariff deals

2:03.7

with various countries, including China, that it's been overlooked largely that the non-tariff

2:10.5

barriers that countries like China have erected to stop or to slow down the flow of U.S.

2:16.8

exports can be even more important than with China,

2:20.2

in particular, because these non-tariff barriers are put into place by a very secretive bureaucracy,

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