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From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

Another great guest this week folks, Cal Rubinowitz.

How does somebody, how and why does somebody go from the upper echelons of network television

to running a meditation studio?

Cal runs Dan meditation in LA and in the LA area part of this explosion in the secular

meditation kind of drop in centers all over the country and many of the big cities around

the country. It's got a really interesting story and an interesting view of the role of

meditation in a busy life.

So we'll get to that in a second. First though, a few items of business, then your voice

mail and then we'll get to the interview. A little business items, a couple of notes

from the 10% world. We are hiring. We're looking for a meditation producer and also a senior

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