In one of the most famous passages of Scripture, the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus said that as individuals, we're responsible for our actions before we start charging ahead, trying to solve other people's problems.

He said, take the plank out of your own eye before

you try to help somebody else with the spec in theirs. How do you do that when your spouse is

really egregiously hurting you and doing bad things and harmful things? I'm John Fuller, along with

Greg Smalley and his wife, Aaron, who lead our marriage team here at Focus.

And we're going to hear now the continuation of a conversation that originated on a Focus on the Family with Jim Daly episode.

Jim spoke with Dave and Ashley Willis.

And last time here on this show, we heard how Ashley discovered Dave was using pornography and was actually addicted to it and

the betrayal of trust that that discovery caused. Go back and listen to that previous episode.

And then today we're going to continue here learning what happened in the days and weeks after

that revelation. Let me ask you this on behalf of women listening, some that have encountered this with

their spouse, others that may yet to have encountered it.

Again, that stat 55%, it's almost like, yeah, it's over 50-50 chance you're going to encounter

this as a spouse.

Those feelings, though, Ashley, that's what I'm really interested in because

I'm sure you're a wonderful person and you have a deeply rooted faith in Christ. That's obvious

because of how you responded. But as we talked a moment ago about that Y in the road, that fork in the

road and the degree of descent and uscent required, This one is big. Oh, it's big.

Because it's betrayal. And for you to respond with almost like a therapeutic spiritual approach,

okay, Dave, I know let's work on this. A lot of women are going, how did you do that? I'd be

slapping him. I'd be doing more, you know, just

lashing out at him. And maybe some of that happened. But how do you get that right in the right

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