Welcome to the conversationsations That Matter Podcast. I am your host John Harris for part

two of the T4G panel discussion on critical race theory. We heard the first half last

podcast. You can go check that out. In fact you probably need to for this one and

we're going to talk about the second half of it and we left off with Pastor Bobby basically saying that his dad suffered discrimination.

He had disparities in where he went to school and critical race theory tries to make sense of all this stuff by showing the motivation behind it and so there's a helpful

analytical tool if you will that critical race theory offers and this was in contrast to what Kevin DeYoung had shared, which was basically that racism's probably worse than white people think it is, but he disagrees with some of the fundamental core tenets of critical race theorists, like interest convergence, which says that race relations

that when when they get better as a result of legislation or something that's just a

mirage because white people are maintaining their white dominance and so it's questions the motives of people unnecessarily

and then he went on to say that actually this challenges the gospel this can lead to real mission drift and so

I really was hoping that Kevin DeYoung would focus a little more

on that like how does this challenge the gospel well because it's a false gospel it has its own ways of

rectifying sinful situations by getting woke, participating in activism as a means for grace,

really if there is a granny grace, there really isn't but that's those are the

sacraments if you will and then striving for this heaven on earth this equity

inclusion and diversity world and and of course the the bad news is that we have white privilege, it's not

original sin, it's that we violated political correctness and it's that we're going

to have to be canceled if we don't do the right thing and so it's a whole different gospel it's a whole different religion and I really wish Kevin DeYoung would have knocked that out of the park talked about how

woke ideology critical race theory promotes these quote-unquote

oppressed perspectives and it's a direct challenge to revelation because when you do

this and say that there's special

knowledge that someone has because of an experience a set of experiences that

are only attached to certain social locations then not everyone has the same

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