Welcome to the Conversations that Matter Podcast. I'm your host John Harris. We're

going to talk about the T4G panel one more time. I wasn't going to do it. I

decided I'm going to do it because periodically throughout the day,

and I'm recording this the day after I recorded the last podcast on that T4G critical

race theory panel, I've been thinking about one particular moment. And it was the moment

Pastor Bobby Scott, who is pro using critical race theory as an analytical tool, talks

about the Ministry of Reconciliation.

And I didn't really address it.

I went off on a history tangent, which is important.

Pastor Bobby Scott seems to really kind of flatline and simplify a lot of things

and then he's wants to use

critical race theory as an analytical tool to explain current race relations

because there was an end to segregation and yet there's still disparities that exist.

And so because there's disparities that exist,

we gotta, we have to figure out why that is and

CRT proposes a plausible explanation.

And so Pastor Bobby Scott seems to be very sympathetic to that,

that it's because racism never went away.

It's still around us.

And that's exactly what

Pastor Bobby Scott believes. It's not just that it's a possible

explanation. It's actually the explanation that Pastor Bobby Scott has

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