Axis Mundi. The Welcome to Straightwide American Jesus. My name is Brad O'Nishi faculty at the University of San Francisco.

Today we have a special episode. We are talking to two survivors of I-HOP KC

People who spent their some of their formative years there, served in ministry, went to school,

trained to be worship leaders, and were on staff.

Now, some of you know a lot about IHOP KC,

some of you don't know much at all,

but you may have heard that this week,

Mike Bickle, the longtime leader of IHOP,

the International House of Prayer in Kansas City, was removed from his post because of allegations

of sexual misconduct spanning several decades. There are multiple women who have come forward and

mentioned not only sexual misconduct but the ways that Mike Bickle has used

his power and authority to be coercive in these situations.

I wanted just to provide some context for I-HOP.

I know that some of you know what I-HOP is and some of you may not. Let me just provide a little bit of background. I want to thank my

colleague Matt Taylor, who's a friend of the show who provided me with some of this info, but this comes from a long history of I-HOP being in the ether and

being a kind of major player in Midwestern charismatic Christianity.

Mike Bickle arrived in Kansas City in 1982 and there he began to

associate with some folks who were part of the Latter Rain Movement. And if you

don't know about the Latter Rain Movement, I'm not going to spend a long time on that today.

But Latter Rain folks were part of a charismatic movement that believed that Jesus was returning soon,

that the types of fivefold ministries that you read about in

Ephesians four where there's a list of roles that people play in the church

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