Hello, and welcome to it's in the code a series that is part of the podcast straight white American Jesus

My name is Dan Miller and professor of religion and social thought at Lamar College and your host for this series glad as always to be with you

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And I'm just going to dive right in I've got I think a decent amount to say today

As I record this

You know, I'm recording this Halloween is just passed

But it's still on my mind right the last series I looked at

Sort of harvest festivals and kind of conservative religious groups that oppose Halloween and so forth

And I kind of wanted to stay in that spirit that spirit of Halloween a little bit

And I wanted to say something about witches, right?

What can we talk about at Halloween besides witches?

There's a lot we could say about witches. There's a lot we could say about witchcraft lots of interesting things

But the theme for today comes directly from one of my clients

They are not the only one who've ever mentioned this to me

But they brought it to my attention and I'd sort of hadn't thought about it in a long time. They're listening. They know who they are

But the reference comes from a verse in the Hebrew Bible. It's from the that I have in mind today

It's a passage in first Samuel 15 verse 23

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