Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, conversations on faith and culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, professor of Christian ethics and dean of faculty at

Tallent School of Theology, Biola University.

We're here today with my colleague in Christian ethics.

It's actually nice to have somebody else in the fraternity here.

Absolutely.

Dr. Ken Magnison, who was professor of Christian ethics

at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

in Louisville, Kentucky. He's been there since 1999.

He also chairs the Department of Worldview and Culture, which sounds a bit like a department of philosophy

slash cultural engagement.

Yep.

And also directs what is known as the Commonwealth Project on faith, work, and human flourishing.

So our interests have coincided pretty significantly over the last few years because I've been involved in have

been pretty significantly over the last few years because I've been involved in a similar project to Talbot

That's right area of faith work in economics.

So appreciate all your good work in these multiple areas and I understand how it is to balance bioethics, business ethics,

and those disparate fields and trying to stay on top of a lot of different things at the same time.

But you've been working a lot on a subject that I think a lot of people thought was maybe a closed subject.

You know, 30 or so years ago, we maybe thought we resolved all the issues.

When it comes to surrogacy and surrogate motherhood, what I've come to refer to it as pregnancy

for profit for the most part.

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