Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, conversations on faith and culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, being a faculty and professor of Christian ethics at

Talbot School of Theology here at viola University. I'm your co-host Sean

McDowell, professor of Christian Apologetics at Talbot School Theology

Biola University.

We're here today with our special friend and colleague, Dr. J.P. Morland, who's

distinguished professor of philosophy here at Talbot.

We've had him on several times before. He keeps producing new books.

That's right. And so we've, we've, it's a great opportunity to have him on.

J.P. Thanks so much for joining us today. We appreciate you taking time.

Oh, listen, it's my pleasure to be with you brothers and I love your show.

J.P. you are the first guest we've had three times so that makes you pretty special.

Well, thank you. I feel a lot of love right now.

You know, you're best known for your work

as a Christian philosopher, apologist for the faith, but in your newest book, Finding Quiet, there's another side to you

that I don't think a lot of people know about.

And I so appreciate your vulnerability and the risk you took in writing this most recent book called

Finding Quiet. So tell us first, I think, what are the events in your life that gave rise to you writing this book?

I know it goes back, goes back a ways, but there were a couple of really seminal

episodes in your life that you talk about in the book that gave rise to you writing it.

Yes, just to quickly give a little context.

I was born with a genetic predisposition towards general anxiety. My mom

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