Shark Family this week on Barbell Shrugg, Mike Matthews is back on the

podcast for those of you that have been around a long time in the fitness space

you may know him from Legion Athletics. He also has a ton of books like I even joke

around in the show that every time I walk in the barnes and

novo, I love going over to the fitness section with my daughter and like pointing to all the people

on the shelves that have written books about fitness nutrition and telling her that those are my friends because they've been on barbell shrugged.

She definitely thinks I'm cool. Probably not, but at least I try to be cool in front of her by showing her that those are all my friends.

But he's got a brand new book that he's writing,

and on top of that, the way that he is writing it is very cool.

We're going to walk through that process,

and then we dig right into supplements.

Legion has been around for a very long time,

one of the most reputable supplement companies out there.

And it's always very cool to hear people that know significantly more about their specific piece of

the fitness industry.

Mike knows absolutely everything there is to know about the supplement industry,

mainly just because he's been in it for so long.

But also, I always love hearing about people talking about the quality of it, why they make certain decisions inside their business, and the supplement industry is just filled with snake oil salesmen all over the place.

Like the number of supplement companies that have started and gone out of business

since I started training like 28 years ago I mean it's it's it's got to be in the

billions and very very few of them make it because it's just it's such a hard

industry to be in but Mike has made made it through and has done a phenomenal job

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