Supplementary Material 37: Public Murder Discourse, Heterodox Psychodramas, and Generous Tit for Tat-ers

Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Science, Leisure, Social Sciences, Society & Culture

4.2 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 September 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Why are we never invited to these dinners? We wonder if it was something we said or if our invitation just got lost in the mail, as we endure the inevitable discourse wave that followed in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder.

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Supplementary Material 37

00:00 Introduction

01:10 Cooking Gurus?

05:39 Sensemaking Overindulgence

07:19 Feedback on The Elephant Graveyard Segment

14:07 Gary is awarded an Honorary Doctorate by SOAS

19:15 On the Murder of Charlie Kirk

24:49 Murder is Bad & Charlie Kirk was a Polemicist

38:07 Hypocritical Calls for Violence: Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson

41:32 The Superficial Celebrations of Luigi Mangione

44:52 Michael Shermer is an entirely non-skeptical partisan

47:16 Eric Weinstein and the rush to post

49:48 Joe Rogan argues with his friend on vaccines

58:11 Predictable Pivot

01:05:30 Blocked and Reported discuss the Interpersonal Psychodramas of the Heterodox

01:07:07 The Thick Skin of Michael Shellenberger

01:11:41 Being Bret Weinstein's +1

01:13:39 Dave Rubin does not appreciate public criticism

01:16:29 A Heterodox DM encounter

01:21:01 Money and Macro's Video on Gary's Economics

01:27:56 The DTG approach vs Debunking

01:29:43 The Nature of Expertise and Criticism

01:31:17 Researching Guru Claims

01:36:37 Destiny invokes the Prisoner's Dilemma and Tit for Tat strategies

01:40:59 Generous Tit for Tat

01:46:28 Konstantin Kisin's warning about alternative media

01:54:26 Konstantin's "Consistency"

02:01:44 Next Gurus and Fake Outro

02:03:44 Decoding the Gamers: Caves of Qud and Two Point Museum

02:08:11 Retro School Games: Drug Wars, Beachhead and Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?

02:11:53 Real Outro

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0:00.0	I'm
0:02.0	. Hello and welcome to Decoding the Guru's supplementary material.
0:32.2	The sister podcast to the bigger brother decoding episodes, which is at the minute stuck deep in a sense-making swamp.
0:41.5	But the person that is enduring that with me is Matthew Brown,
0:46.9	the psychologist opposite me there.
0:49.1	And I stand before you, both a psychologist and an anthropologist, but mostly, mostly just a man.
0:57.8	Mostly a man. Mostly a podcaster, Chris. I'm not mostly a podcaster. I'm mostly an academic
1:06.4	with a side gig in podcasting. Isn't that more accurate?
1:14.3	I'm mostly a home chef and flavor maximizer.
1:15.3	That's how I prefer. Oh, flavor maximizer?
1:16.9	Is that you're like, you're in the optimizing world of,
1:21.7	why is that, that seems like an area right for guru.
1:26.6	Like I know that you have Gordon Ramsey and Heston Blumenthal and all those kind of things,
1:32.4	but not really anybody like that's combined Andrew Tate style or Jordan Peterson guruism with cooking.
1:40.8	No, it doesn't.
1:41.5	It doesn't suit.
1:43.0	Yeah, it's been noted on the Patreon discussion
1:46.3	boards, Chris, that there's a bit of a schism. A schism even. Is it schism, is it? Schism, schism. It wouldn't
1:57.2	be the podcast to provide abbrevi of our pronunciation at the beginning.
2:01.1	So, okay, there's been a schism or schism.
2:04.0	That's right.
2:04.9	There's Chris's monastery and modest effort where middle-aged people share their tiny physical
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