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This is talk easy. I'm Sam Fricoso. Welcome to the show. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Hey everyone. This week I am joined by writer Anne Lamotte. She's the author of

best-selling books like Operating Instructions, Bird by Bird, and traveling mercies. Both in her fiction and non-fiction

work, she tends to traffic in the messier parts of us. She writes candidly about motherhood, alcoholism, love, and faith. She has this kind of tendency of saying the unsayable.

Of going to places most people like to avoid which of course makes

her a perfect guest for talk easy all of these tendencies are on display in her new book,

Dusk Night Dawn, which, if you haven't read it already,

is now available to purchase wherever you do your reading.

I highly recommend it.

And in the spirit of this book,

this is a conversation on revival and courage.

What does restoration look like?

How do we heal and recover from the past year?

She shares some personal stories, some from the book, all from her about forgiveness, regret, redemption, and what her

battle with sobriety can teach all of us about healing.

You know, in the past past we've sat with authors like Elizabeth

Gilbert, George Saunders, Miranda July, Claudia Rankin, Gloria Steinham, Fran

Leibowitz the list goes on and what I like in Gloria as a jumping off point, which is to say if you're reading Anne's latest book,

dusk night dawn, welcome. If you've read her work in the past, I'm glad you're here. If you've never read her work before, that's

okay too. The only prerequisite for our show is that you show up, which if you're hearing

this right now, you've already done. So thank you for

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