Sunday Nice Things: Dissecting Tradwives and Feminism

Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

Jo Piazza, Influence Inc.

Technology, Kids & Family, Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Parenting

4.3 • 834 Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Today I'm dropping an interview that I did with the Love-ly⁠ podcast into our feed. This week on Love-ly, Mehak sits down with bestselling author, journalist, and podcaster Jo Piazza, widely considered one of America’s sharpest observers of women, motherhood, and the influencer economy. Together, they unpack the increasingly visible and controversial world of “trad wives”—women who embrace and promote full-time homemaking on social media. Mehak and Jo explore why the aesthetic is so magnetic, what’s intentionally left out of the picture-perfect narrative, and how domesticity is often repackaged as empowerment. Along the way, Mehak and Jo discuss a viral TikTok from @cortneygetsfit, a stay-at-home mom navigating life post-divorce after years of financial dependence on her husband. Piazza opens up about the realities of feminist choice, financial independence, and how her own views on marriage and partnership have shifted over time. Pulling from her years of reporting and her latest book, Everyone Is Lying to You, the conversation gets into shifting gender roles, the pressure cooker of modern womanhood, and the glossy myths social media keeps feeding us. You can listen to more episode of Love-ly here. Join our newsletter community here. ORDER EVERYONE IS LYING TO YOU here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Do you know what you want for Christmas?
0:02.0	A cute toy.
0:04.0	No, I just want my family back.
0:06.0	That's what I want for Christmas.
0:08.0	We'll see what Santa can do, okay?
0:10.0	It's Christmas, so deal could share.
0:12.0	Merry Christmas.
0:14.0	Tis the season to watch Tally on Channel 4.
0:16.0	Stream now.
0:31.8	Hey all, Joe here, and you're listening to Sunday Nice Things.
0:38.4	A couple of weeks ago, I did an interview with the podcast, Lovely, that I haven't been able to stop thinking about. It was just so smart and so great. We talked about tradwives, what they're selling,
0:44.7	what they're promoting, the cracks in the tradwife industrial complex. But we also really dug
0:50.4	into the realities of feminist choice and financial independence. And I just loved
0:55.6	this chat. So I wanted to drop it here in our feed. The Lovely Show is great. And I'll put a link
1:01.6	in the show notes if you want to listen to more of their episodes. I really hope you enjoy this one.
1:10.2	Hello, hello, and welcome back to Lovely.
1:15.0	I'm your host, Mahak, and happy Friday.
1:20.2	I hope everyone listening is doing better than I am today.
1:24.5	She's a little sick, but the show must go on.
1:30.5	So here we are. And speaking of the show must go on, everyone buckle up. We're going to go somewhere that is very online,
1:37.4	very aesthetic, and very 2025. Today's episode, we have a really exciting topic.
1:45.9	We also have a really exciting guest.
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