This is Sarah Stewart Holland. This is Beth Silver's. You're listening to Pantsu Politics, where we take a different feeling under the weather. Hello, thank you so much for joining me today.

Beth is feeling under the weather.

But I am delighted to be welcoming Aeton Hirsch,

a professor of political science at Tufts University.

I read Professor Hirsch's book, Politics is for Power, several years ago.

And if you're a long-time listener of the show, you probably remember that I could not stop talking

about that book. I still think about his central thesis all the time that most of us are engaged in political

hobbyism, not political action.

Then back in March, I read this amazing article in Boston magazine by Rachel

Slate about a professor teaching American

conservative thought at Tufts University and all the interesting

results among the students and then I realized that this professor was

Professor Hirsch, the same one that wrote politics for power.

So we immediately invited him on the show to talk about the class and all the interesting

fallout among the students.

And then the campus protests began sweeping the country, including it Tufts.

And our conversation is even more important and timely,

because hearing from people on the ground on campuses

brings such an important perspective to the discussion. Now, speaking of our discussion

about colleges and college admissions, on Tuesday we had a long expansive

conversation about admissions and financial aid and

FASFA with consultant Sarah Bittner. Now we wanted to issue a small correction.

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