This is Sarah Stewart Holland. This is Beth Silver's. You're listening to Pantsu Politics, where we take a different approach to the news. Thank you so much for joining us today. We're going to talk about corruption.

Between the trials of Donald Trump and Senator Menendez both taking place in Manhattan this week,

and the new charges against Representative Koyar from Texas, we are both struggling with how to think and feel about our government

when stories of corruption are everywhere. So we're going to talk about that first,

and then we're going to share a conversation Beth had about scams of another

kind with Kathy Bookvar that we know you're really going to enjoy. Kathy is the

president of Athena Strategies. She is the former Pennsylvania Secretary of State and has dedicated her career to securing our elections.

And with so many of us headed to the polls in primary elections this month, we thought it was the perfect time to share that conversation.

Outside of politics, we're going to talk about, drum roll please,

the return of the nuanced life. If you have been with us for a while, you know that we usually depart from our normal

programming during the summer.

We've done series on infrastructure.

We've talked with all of you about the partisan divide.

And this year, we are thrilled to announce that we are reviving our podcast the Nuance Life.

Beginning in June every Friday we will share a new episode of The Nuance Life here in the

Pants-Sou Politics Feed. So we're going to tell you today all about the nuanced life.

What led us to start that podcast, why we stopped it,

and why we're bringing it back for a limited run this summer.

spoiler, it's mostly because so many of you ask us to.

And to kick off this special series,

we're gonna do something else

that you've been asking us to do,

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