Welcome to the global phenomenon,

Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist,

Joel Waldman.

What's up, SDS Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor, the

podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime. Happy Monday to you. We are on

case hearing watch here for Donna Sue Adelson and none other than best

guest Jared Ross who went to high school a little bit with Charlie Adelson, new Dan, new Wendy.

What better guests to have on?

Happy Monday to you, Jared.

Jared, you and I saw each other bright and early and bushy tail this morning, having done

court TV with the lovely and inimitable Julie Grant. How are you, Jared Ross?

I'm doing well. A little more weight than I was this morning, but good to be with you again, Joel.

I am the opposite. I start to lose steam this time of day excuse me.

We, Carmen I actually just did, there's a show, a radio show that emanates from Toronto, Ontario, Canada called Strange Planet with Richard Serret,

and we just, Carmen I did an hour with him

and we talked the Barry and Honey Sherman case.

For those who do not know,

Google Barry and Honey Sherman case for those who do not know Google Barry and Honey Sherman the

12th wealthiest couple in Canada were murdered back in 2017 the case is still

unsolved but then of course we talked about Dan Markel and

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