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The Greg McKeown Podcast

Stop Caring About What Doesn’t Matter - Melani Sanders

The Greg McKeown Podcast

Greg McKeown

Self-improvement, Business, Education

4.91K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Melani Sanders is a digital creator and the fearless founder of the We Do Not Care Movement™. Her viral WDNC reels and posts capture the humor, heart, and chaos of perimenopause and menopause, midlife in general, motherhood, and real life. Get a copy of her book The Official We Do Not Care Club Handbook: A Hot-Mess Guide for Women in Perimenopause, Menopause, and Beyond Who Are Over It Greg McKeown is a two-time New York Times bestselling author, one of the most sought-after public speakers globally, and has spoken to over 500 companies while traveling to more than 40 countries. His clients include Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Nike. He hosts The Greg McKeown Podcast, ranked in the Top 5 of all Self Improvement podcasts (and Top 10 in Educational podcasts on Apple Podcasts. Guests have included Harvard professor Arthur Brooks, Matthew McConaughey, Maria Shriver, John Hope Bryant, and Ariana Huffington. His work has been covered in print media, including The New Yorker, The New York Times, Time, Fast Company, Fortune, Politico, Inc., and Harvard Business Review. It has also been featured on NPR, NBC, FOX, and multiple times on The Steve Harvey Show.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The word is understanding and the idea that there's a space between agreeing and disagreeing,

0:06.6

between judging and fixing and even improving, changing, all of those things.

0:13.0

There's another space, and that space is to understand ourselves, understand other people,

0:18.9

be understood by other people.

0:20.7

I've been in isolation a lot during this period since the beginning, the inception of

0:24.6

We Do Not Care, because I didn't understand it.

0:26.6

And I wanted to be sure that I was moving on purpose.

0:29.6

Inclusiveness and empathy are so important.

0:33.6

I feel like if we could be more self-aware of that and don't have to get in those moments first,

0:39.2

those aha moments and just wake up and be inclusive, wake up and show empathy, you know, for the next person.

0:48.0

Just do what we have to do. Put yourself in an other person's shoes. And when you do that and you're

0:53.1

moving on purpose, life is good.

0:55.2

Welcome, everybody. I'm your host, Greg McEwen. And we on this podcast explore what's

1:01.3

essential in life, how to eliminate the non-essentials and how to design a life that truly matters.

1:07.6

And today, we're joined by someone who has tapped into a cultural moment

1:12.2

with both humor and honesty. Melanie Sanders is the accidental creator, or maybe the intentional

1:19.5

creator of the We Do Not Care Club. It's a wildly relatable, wildly funny movement that began

1:26.7

as one woman saying out loud

1:30.3

what millions were quietly feeling, that there is simply too much to care about, worry about,

1:36.3

and perform in modern life.

1:38.3

And while the We Do Not Care Club emerged from the unique experiences of paramenopause, menopause and postmenopause.

1:46.2

What makes it resonate even further beyond that is this essential message. We are drowning in

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