Hi, I'm Jonathan Kpart, and welcome to K-Bup.

At the 2016 Democratic National Convention, Reverend William Barber gave one of the best speeches in Philadelphia, one that issued a moral calling to the nation.

Today, when our moral underpinnings are being tested, there's no better person to talk with than the man whose multiple arrests in the moral Monday movement have galvanized the nation.

Get ready for an episode that is One Part History Seminar and two parts church right now. Reverend Barbara,

thank you very much for being on the podcast.

Thank you so much, Jonathan.

So you spoke at the Democratic National Convention

in Philadelphia in 2016 and gave what I thought was one of the best convention speeches there.

It was filled with morality and talking about, you know, who we are as a country and folks who use religion to mask other other

agendas. I want everyone to take a listen to one part of the speech where you

address that. And when religion is used to camouflage meanness, we know that we have a

heart problem in America.

There have always been forces that wanted to harden even stop the heart of our democracy.

So here we are, what, three years, no two, my math is bad, two years later and all the things that we have seen particularly in June.

What do you think about where things are in the country?

Well, I think exactly what I said that day, that the country indeed has a heart problem.

We have a walking away, if you will, by some

extremists of our deepest moral and our deepest religious, our deepest

constitutional values like love and justice and treatment of people right and treatment of the stranger right and the poor.

That night that I spoke at the convention I had been on a 26 state tour for a moral revival.

We had marched on the Republican Convention.

We had tried to present a higher ground moral

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