So even some of the stuff that we think declines over time, we're starting to find ways around it,

but Scott's really right, his point is, you can sort of bypass a lot of the things that decline

over time with sort of a flow mastery-based protocol. And if you want to fight off Alzheimer's

and dementia, we know that the two best ways to do it is lifelong learning and you need expertise

and wisdom, right?

Hello and welcome to the Psychology podcast. Today we welcome Stephen Kotler to the show.

Stephen is the executive director of the Flow Research Collective. He's an award-winning

journalist and one of the world's leading experts on human performance. Stephen is the author of

11 bestsellers including the art of impossible, the rise of Superman, bold, and abundance. His work has

been nominated for two poll surprises, translated into over 50 languages, and he has appeared in

over a hundred publications. His latest book is called Nar Country, Growing Old Staying Rad.

Our moderator for this live discussion was Dr. Tori Higgins, the head coach of the Flow

Research Collective. Dr. Higgins is a deeply passionate empathetic peak performance coach,

consultant, and educator whose coaching philosophy is rooted in the deep-seated belief that everyone

has the potential to achieve success and growth. In her private practice, she has had the

opportunity to coach a diverse range of clientele, from mountaineers preparing a summit, Mount Everest,

and K2 to business leaders of Fortune 500 companies. In this live discussion, I talk to Stephen

Kotler about creativity, skill mastery, and aging. Our society views aging as a process of decline,

with our physical and mental capabilities worsening over time. Stephen Kotler invites us to

challenge our preconceived notions about aging by engaging in impossible activities that cultivate

mastery and creativity. When we are able to incrementally push past our limits, we change our mindset

about growing old, which ultimately prolongs our longevity. We also touch on the topics of exploration,

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