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The Psychology Podcast

Aaron Rabinowitz & Callie Wright || What We Get Wrong About Transgender People

The Psychology Podcast

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Science, Social Sciences

4.4 • 2K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 2 March 2023

ā±ļø 141 minutes

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Summary

Today we welcome Aaron Rabinowitz and Callie Wright.Ā 

Aaron is a lecturer in philosophy at Rutgers University. He hosts the Embrace The Void and Philosophers in Space podcast. He specializes in ethics, metaethics, and problems surrounding AI and personhood. He earned his M.A. in Philosophy from Colorado State University.

Callie is a freelance audio producer and the host of the Queersplaining podcast. They are non-binary trans person.

In this episode, I talk to Aaron and Callie about gender and trans issues. When it comes to transgendered folk, we tend to focus on extreme examples that are far removed from reality. Some people think being transgender is a social contagion, while others reject the reality of gender altogether. Callie shares how transitioning has allowed them to become their most authentic self. Aaron sheds light on the issues of consent, autonomy, identity, and medical ethics. Both Callie and Aaron recognize that specific topics can negatively skew public opinion, which is why addressing misconceptions and highlighting the lived experiences of trans men, women, and non-binary individuals are crucial to the conversation.

Website: voidpod.com & queersplaining.com

Twitter: @ETVPod & @calliegetsit

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Topics

03:15 Introducing Callie

05:14 Introducing Aaron

08:27 Callie coming out as trans

17:06 Ideology over scienceĀ 

23:32 Transphobia is real

25:28 Social contagion and moral panic

33:29 Pushing the anti-trans agendaĀ 

35:56 ā€œHave a trans child or a dead childā€

41:13 Extreme trans activists

47:13 The gender critical movement

44:47 The world operates on gender, not sex

51:29 What does it feel like to be a trans woman?

55:50 Subjectivity of gender and identity

1:02:06 Why we gatekeep identities

1:06:30 Trans people in sports

1:23:58 Sex and gender differences

1:32:47 Gender-affirming care

1:39:44 Puberty blockers and transitioningĀ 

1:42:38 Medical ethics and barriers to access

1:49:21 Parental consent vs child autonomy

1:52:17 There is harm in waiting and seeing

2:07:55 Irreversible changes in puberty

2:11:43 Teaching gender in school

2:15:26 Wokeness is misappropriated

2:17:42 Final thoughts

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0:00.0

be living a world constructed around gender, like not around biological sex, very clearly

0:04.4

around gender and gender presentation. We're not, you know, checking biological sex at bathrooms,

0:09.1

we're checking gender presentation. So I think it's silly to sort of take the position that there's

0:17.4

no such thing as gender or no such thing as being transgender. Hello and welcome to the psychology

0:25.1

podcast. The following episode is part of the Making Sense of Sex and Gender series on this

0:30.3

podcast. In this series, we try to make sense of the distinction between sex and gender and cover

0:35.7

trans issues in a very thoughtful and nuanced fashion. We have balanced discussions from multiple

0:41.5

perspectives, including scientists, activists, and a leading feminism scholar. This series will

0:46.8

hopefully expand your mind and help you make sense of the current heated debates surrounding the

0:51.4

distinctions between sex and gender, as well as transgender issues. The aim is to turn down the

0:56.9

temperature on this very heated topic and increase understanding and integrate truth with love.

1:03.7

I hope you will listen to this entire series with an open mind and an open heart. And as always,

1:09.1

we look forward to hearing your feedback and comments on our website and on the YouTube channel.

1:14.3

So that further do I bring you this episode within the Making Sense of Sex and Gender series.

1:20.0

Today, we welcome Aaron Rabinoets and Cali Wright to the podcast. Aaron is a lecturer in philosophy

1:27.2

at Rutgers University. He hosts the Embrace the Void and Philosophers in Space podcast. He specializes

1:33.7

in ethics, meta-ethics, and problems surrounding AI and personhood. He earned his MA in philosophy

1:40.4

from Colorado State University. Cali is a freelance audio producer and the host of the Queer explaining

1:47.4

podcast. They are a non-binary trans person. In this episode, I talked to Aaron and Cali about

1:53.9

gender and trans issues. When it comes to transgendered folk, we tend to focus on extreme examples

1:59.6

that are far removed from reality. Some people think being transgender is entirely a social

2:04.7

contagion, while others reject the reality of gender altogether. Cali shares how transitioning

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