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Typology

Steve Taylor on Maturity, Mindfulness & Meaning (Enneagram 7)

Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

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4.6 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In this heartfelt, humorous, and deeply human conversation, Ian sits down with longtime friend — artist, filmmaker, professor, and Enneagram Seven — Steve Taylor. You may know him as the legendary provocateur who "invented irony for Christians," but in this episode, we explore the terrain beneath the creativity, the energy, and the relentless forward motion that has defined so much of his life.

Together we wade into the deeper waters of the second half of life — aging, character, grief, spiritual maturity, limitations, and the sacred invitation to move from doing to being. Steve speaks candidly about the shifting landscape of life at 67:

  • the habits that no longer serve him

  • the tender emergence of compassion

  • learning to sit with grief rather than outrun it

  • the uncomfortable art of slowing down

  • how filmmaking and teaching have reshaped his inner life

  • and the courageous (and often comical) struggle of a Seven learning to live in the present moment

We talk about marriage, mortality, the ache of unfinished dreams, the sweetness of gratitude, the pains and gifts of aging, and the spiritual practices that are slowly rewiring Steve's relationship with presence.

Tune in to hear this rich conversation about Enneagram transformation, emotional intelligence, creativity, and the inner work of becoming whole.

 

 

ABOUT STEVE TAYLOR

Steve Taylor is a filmmaker, writer, producer and recording artist who earned his "Renaissance Man" stripes (Prism Magazine) from a body of work that's garnered him multiple Grammy, Billboard, Telly, Addy and Dove awards and nominations. A southern California native, he was raised in Denver, Colo., and studied music and film at Colorado University. In 1983, Taylor began a career as a recording artist that spanned 12 years, selling over one million albums worldwide and garnering him two Grammy nominations for "Meltdown" (1984) and "Squint" (1993). In the process, he made history as the only artist to twice win Billboard Music Video Awards for self-directed music videos. As a concert artist, Taylor headlined four international tours, including acclaimed appearances at L.A.'s Universal Amphitheater and London's Hammersmith Odeon. He was also lead singer in the MCA-signed modern rock band Chagall Guevara.

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0:00.0

Hey folks and welcome to Typology, the show on which we explore the mystery of the human personality and the mystery of the great human adventure all through the lens of the Enneagram.

0:15.0

My name is Anthony Skinner, your producer and co-host. So happy to have you here today, folks. We got a true longtime friend in the house,

0:25.0

filmmaker, writer, songwriter, producer, recording artist. His creative fingerprints can be found

0:31.5

all across films that you've seen, music that you've heard. a real influencer. I'm talking about Steve Taylor,

0:39.9

true Renaissance man. His career has spanned over four decades, earned him multiple Grammy,

0:45.5

Billboard, Telly, Addy, and Dove Awards and nominations. He sold a million albums worldwide

0:52.6

as a recording artist.

0:54.8

Then he fronted this modern rock band, Shigal Gavara.

0:57.5

If you've never heard Shigal Gavara, do yourself a favor.

1:00.7

Stream it, and if they get together for any kind of reunion anywhere near you,

1:05.2

make sure you go see it.

1:07.1

He's the only artist to twice win Billboard Music Video Awards for self-directed videos.

1:12.6

The accolades go on and on and on.

1:15.6

He is the founder of Squint Entertainment.

1:18.6

He's a filmmaker and residence at Lipscomb University, Go Bisons.

1:23.6

My son got to sit under him when he went to Lipscomb.

1:26.6

So we really love Steve here in the typology house.

1:31.5

We go on a bit of a journey today.

1:34.5

He identifies Steve does as an Enigram 7.

1:38.4

The guy's got energy for days.

1:40.5

But in this season of life, he's become much more reflective, and we get into that.

1:46.7

It's a really great conversation.

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