Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration,

on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, paying $300,000 for a music

video that will get 96 views on YouTube, or else a scrappy upstart, shooting a viral music video

on your Android, this is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad

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