Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come

to talk shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode here we host a distinguished guest

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs

of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran digitizing the pages of

your 1989 punk rock scene or else a scrappy upstart, screen printing a classic entry from

your tumbler. This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most and iron

clad excuse to put off, actually writing. Hey, everybody, it's April Fools' day, 2022, and I

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