Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come

to talk shop, I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode here we host a distinguished guest

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs

of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran trying to revamp your

screamo career as a silver-templed Roots music artist or else a scrappy abstract, trying

to revamp your high school backpack wrapping group as an art school noise project. This

is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off

actually writing. Hey everybody, it's the third Friday of March 2022 and I thank you for joining us.

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