Hey guys, it's Andrew Eger with the bulwark. Illegal immigration has been in the news a lot all year.

Legal immigration is now something we are talking more and more about, particularly the TPS temporary

protected status, which many, many, many migrants in the U.S. currently hold. It's one of the,

one of the kind of forms of legal status that exist out there for people from countries torn by war, various other forms of violence and unrest to come and have legal status here.

Donald Trump over the weekend kind of made some news because he took aim at specifically TPS holders from Somalia.

He's been feuding with, you know, Representative Ilhan Omar, who is Somali, who is

representative from Minnesota, from a district with a high portion of Somali constituents.

And so that was kind of back in the news because he did that.

But that's just kind of just one small part of a longstanding theme this year, which is the president kind of clamping down on this program and other forms of legal immigration across the board. So here to talk about it all a little bit is our economics reporter, Catherine Rampel. Catherine, how are you doing today? I'm great. How are you? I am not so bad. So can you just

lay this out for us a little bit? Because this is one of these things that's been sort of like

burbling beneath the surface while we careen from crisis to crisis in the Trump administration.

But, you know, not less important for having not been paid as much attention to as maybe we ought to

have. Sure. So there's obviously, rightfully been a lot of attention paid to the really horrible,

aggressive, ghoulish raves that are happening, where ICE agents and CBP agents are

snatching people off the streets and busting into workplaces and all of that,

primarily going after people who are undocumented,

although some people are getting swept up in that who actually do have legal status or are

they're even citizens. But that's not really the target. Meanwhile, the administration has also been

going after hundreds of thousands of people who have documents

and essentially ded documenting them.

You mentioned TPS, so there are a lot of people who are on this, it is temporary protected

status.

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