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Bulwark Takes

Trump is Exploiting a Tragedy to Burn This Country Down

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

JVL and Sarah take on the shooting of two National Guard members in DC, Trump’s escalation, his push for denaturalization and “reverse migration,” the online right’s king-fantasies, the Wall Street Journal’s warning about abandoning allies, and what real leadership demands in moments of national crisis.

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0:00.0

Hey there, this is JVL with my best friend from the bulwark, Sarah Longwell.

0:04.9

On Wednesday, as we were all departing and traveling for Thanksgiving,

0:10.0

terrible tragedy in Washington, D.C., where an Afghan national shot two National Guard members downtown,

0:18.9

just about a few blocks from the White House.

0:23.0

One of those National Guard members, Sarah, just about a few blocks from the White House, one of those National Guard members, Sarah Bextram from West Virginia, has now died from her wounds. The other one is

0:28.2

in critical condition still. Terrible, horrible thing. And I, you know, so we're finding out

0:34.9

things, Sarah, you know, news dribbling out about the shooter.

0:39.1

He was an Afghan national who was a partner with the U.S. military and with the CIA during the

0:44.9

war, came over during the Biden administration, was granted asylum under the Trump administration,

0:50.8

seems to have been settled in Washington State and to have driven cross-country.

0:57.0

He's got a wife from five kids, I believe, driven cross-country with the goal of shooting

1:03.4

and killing people in Washington.

1:07.7

Unbelievable evil.

1:09.4

Hard to understand how this happened or where the turn went, because it's a

1:14.7

big turn from putting your life on the line by being a partner for America in your home

1:23.3

country where that sort of thing can get you killed, to coming to America, to asking to stay in

1:29.5

America, to then going and murdering Americans.

1:34.4

And especially like Americans who had nothing to do with you, right?

1:37.7

Just, I'm going to drive cross country and just kill these two people randomly.

1:41.0

And that's basically all you can say is that it's awful. This is

1:44.8

a horrible tragedy. And like, you know, these, these moments right now when things, when horrible

1:51.7

things are happening, they all live inside the political context. Like there's a whole, you know,

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