Hi, I'm Lawrence Krause and welcome to the Origins Podcast, in particular to one of our special podcasts on current events.

Last week I caught up with my friend Stephen Frye who's filming a movie in L.A. and I wanted to talk to him about some news items that concern me, in particular several scientific associations and publishers,

are now apparently so concerned about causing offense that they're not just self-censoring.

They're censoring their own articles and data.

And of course, that's of some concern to me, and I thought it'd be great to talk to Stephen about this because he, more than anyone I know, has eloquently discussed the nature of offense and the fact that

people who are offended have no special rights.

So we had an interesting conversation about that in some depth.

And as you know, if you've listened to Stephen on this podcast or anywhere else, he's

an incredibly interesting erudite and eloquent speaker.

And it was, as always, incredibly enjoyable to talk to him.

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current events with Stephen Fry.

Well, thank you, Stephen, for joining me for what I'll call current events with Stephen Fry.

And this current event, I couldn't resist thinking of you.

I'll just read this.

It came from the Royal Society of Chemistry.

And they sent a note to all of their editors, or associate editors, editors, following the publication of

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