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The Dave Chang Show

Steak, Rösti, Béarnaise, a Dave Chang Show Combine, and the NFL Draft with Todd McShay and Steve Muench

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Food, Arts, Society & Culture

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2026

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

It's NFL draft week, and Dave is making a steak, rösti, tomato-onion salad, and more for The McShay Show team, Todd McShay, NFL Draft Analyst & Host, and Steve Muench, Co-Host. The three talk about how to analyze talent on the football field and in the kitchen, the mindset it takes to be great, and whether using analytics has gone too far or not far enough.Todd and Steve also compete in the first Dave Chang Show Combine, testing their food-related skills in the hopes of earning a steak upgrade.Watch The McShay Show: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-todd-mcshay-showCheck out the McShay Report: https://mcshay-report.beehiiv.com/Check out Perone's Italian Gourmet sauce: https://peronesgourmetitalian.com/With Vrbo, what you book is what you get.Shop Amazon and save the everyday. Visit amazon.com today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This episode of the Dave Chang Show is presented by Verbo Vacation Rentals.

0:09.9

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0:13.9

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0:15.3

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0:16.4

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0:17.6

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0:50.2

Hey, Dave Chang here. I am very excited to introduce two very, very amazing guests.

0:54.4

I can't believe they're on the show today, even though they're on the Ringer podcast network. It's Todd McShea and Steve Munch. They are the host of the McShay show. They are NFL

1:01.3

draft analysts. I listen to their pod religiously, especially since I love football and I love

1:06.7

rooting for the Washington football team. And it is the NFL draft here this week. It's taking

1:14.0

place in Pittsburgh. I gave them a Dave Chang podcast combine. I don't know how else to describe it.

1:23.6

And it's an assessment of their culinary eating knowledge.

1:28.0

And I made them a meal that is fitting for an all-pro NFL draft analyst.

1:34.7

So stay tuned.

1:48.0

Hey, guys, Dave Chang here. And if you're not into football, which I would be surprised we wouldn't, but we have a lot of people that watch this show that only care about cooking.

1:57.0

Well, today you're going to have to care about football, but you're also going to have to care about something I care a lot about, which is trying to identify talent and building culture, all these things, and winning organizations.

2:09.9

Because I live through a world of sports, so these two gentlemen in front of me with Todd McShea, Steve Mench.

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